If a lovely British lady walks up to you and your pooch in Piedmont Park and gives you a helpful dog-rearing tip, we suggest you listen to her. That lady is bound to be the world-renowned dog trainer and host of Animal Planet’s smash hit show “It’s Me or the Dog”: Victoria Stilwell.
Stilwell took time away from the production of the show’s next season to talk with FENUXE about the virtues of positive reinforcement, her love of Atlanta, and why the gays make great dog owners.
FENUXE: So you and your family moved to Atlanta? Welcome!
Victoria Stilwell: Yes we did. My husband is from Atlanta, he grew up in Sandy Springs. I started visiting here when I first met my husband which was about 13 years ago and I fell in love with the place immediately because it reminded me of where I grew up in England. Especially the green leafy suburbs felt very familiar to me.
FENUXE: Did they have The Varsity there?
Stilwell: [laughs] No they don’t have The Varsity over in Britain. That’s an experience in itself. I was taken to the Varsity though. I just remember a lot of grease but it sure tasted good.
FENUXE: What do you and the family like to do here?
Stilwell: I have a kid so I like to do a lot of things to entertain her. We’re members of the Botanical Garden, we love going there. It’s a real gem in this city, especially now with the expansion. We love going to Stone Mountain. I mean my God there’s so much. And then my parents live up in the mountains in North Georgia so we go there a lot. That’s what Atlanta gives, you’ve got an hour to go to the mountains and you’ve got beautiful lakes. It’s a great place to raise children.
FENUXE: Do you have pets?
Stilwell: Yes, I have a chocolate labrador called Sadie. She was a rescue. Because of our jobs and moving around so much, it wasn’t until two years ago that we could have our own dog and Sadie came into our lives. Her owner had died and she needed a home so we took her in.
FENUXE: You use positive reinforcement as the basis for your dog training. Why do you think that’s the best way?
Stilwell: Because I think it’s in tune with the dog’s basic psychology. The whole traditional style of training that relies very much on a human dominance, animal submission policy has been proven by scientific research to be highly detrimental to your relationship with your dog both on a psychological and a physical level. When you use positive reinforcement you’re training your dog to follow you because it wants to, not because it fears what’s going to happen to it if it doesn’t, which is what the old dominance-based methodology relies on. I just think the smartest leaders are the ones that can influence behavior without using force.
FENUXE: Have you ever corrected a dog owner while you’re out in public?
Stilwell: Oh yes absolutely. I was on the beach in Florida during the winter and there was a guy who had a labrador, and each time a dog went past his labrador it lunged really aggressively and then the guy would roll the lab on its side and hold it down till the dog submitted. That’s called an alpha role. The whole premise is that if you hold your dog down, it calms down—actually it doesn’t.
So I went up to him and introduced myself and worked with him for about half an hour. We did playtime as other dogs went past and it began to look at other dogs like “Okay, that dog coming by means we can play now,” and I’m like, “Yeah, we play now.” So in half an hour we got that dog from lunging aggressively at other dogs to playing with other dogs. But you need to reinforce training like that, it’s not a quick solution.
My biggest pet peeve—and I might sound like I go around policing everything but I don’t—is when people let their dogs poop and they don’t pick it up. It’s highly toxic, one of the worst chemicals that you can have and it seeps into our water system. I’ll go up and give a bag to the person and say “Oh I think you forgot to pick up after your dog” and they look at me and go “Oh yes, I did.” Whatever.
FENUXE: And they never realize it’s a world famous dog trainer coming up to them?
Stilwell: Oh yes they do, less and less do I have anonymity now. They recognize me and they go “Oh shit! She’s gonna cuss me out!” [laughs]
FENUXE: Have you had gay couples on the show before?
Stilwell: Yes! I worked with two lovely women two years ago, they were one of the first people I worked with for the American series. They live here in Atlanta and are now such good friends of ours. I’ve had male couples as well. We always have a good time, we always have a good laugh.
FENUXE: Do you notice any similarities or differences between gay pet owners and straight pet owners?
Stilwell: For me, I think maybe the gay couples tend to be better dog owners in some respects, because they just seem to give more time. I’ve noticed a little trend where they do make excellent dog owners because they take the time and effort to really understand and work with their dogs.
This is such a freaking judgmental world and it would be so much easier if everyone could just live how they wanted to live as long as they’re not hurting anybody, you know? That’s my attitude.
*For expert dog training advice and to learn more about positive reinforcement, visit Victoria Stilwell’s website www.positively.com.