Charles Middleton made history in 2002 when, with his longtime partner by his side, he was inaugurated as president of Chicago’s Roosevelt University, becoming the first openly gay president of a major university. He’ll be part of history again on August 6th when his campus hosts the first ever conference for openly gay and lesbian university presidents.
FENUXE caught up with Middleton to see how he got here, what campus life is like for LGBT students and when he thinks there will be an openly gay university president in the South.
Fenuxe: At what point in your career did you decide to come out?
President Charles Middleton: It was about 20 years ago when I was dean of the college of arts and sciences at the University of Colorado in Boulder. That’s where I made my initial statement of who I am.
Fenuxe: How did it go?
Middleton: It went well, up to a point. But that was back in the late 80s, early 90s and I think in the end it probably played out as one of the reasons I left the university in a not so happy way. It turned out to be terrific because I would have never gotten here otherwise.
Fenuxe: Did the climate get better as your career went on at Bowling Green and the University System of Maryland?
Middleton: I think that if you’re impatient it can seem like we’re not making progress, and I’m impatient on so many fronts so I spend a lot of time being frustrated. But as a historian I also take a longer view. There’s enormous progress that’s been made in my lifetime. You know, I grew up in the South in the 50s. Guys like me were in pretty bad shape there, they were hidden. I think we’ve made progress but we ain’t there yet baby.
Fenuxe: Did the gay issue come up when you were being considered for the position as president at Roosevelt?
Middleton: Yes, I raised it. I was in a long term relationship with another man, so for me it was really easy. I wouldn’t do anything in any way that would compromise my relationship with him. I raised it because it had never happened before that anyone had ever selected a gay man to be president. So I told them they’ll never pick me and here’s the reason why. And the search firm person told me, “Oh they already know about that and they still want to talk to you”—which of course completely surprised me. So, I learned long ago that you had to be honest and true to yourself first and then with everything else, people will deal with it in their own way. It’s always about them, not you.
Fenuxe: What is the climate like for LGBT students on college campuses now compared to before?
Middleton: Right now, it’s more of a mixed bag for students and others. Since more people are out and more people know people that are out and have family members who are out, the understanding of these issues is more personal and not so abstract as it was, say 30 years ago. But I still think it’s never easy. When you have to come to grips with this aspect of who you are, it’s hard no matter how the environment is.
Fenuxe: You were raised in and went to college in the South and there are currently no openly gay presidents here. What do you think the chances are of it happening here?
Middleton: Of course it’s going to happen. When I grew up, who would have known that you’d have black presidents at American Southern universities and yet they do all over. So I think this will happen in due course but I think it’s gonna be a tougher nut to crack in the South than probably in any other region. There are lots of vice presidents at Southern universities who are LGBT. It’s the question of the last position. That’s why I say it’s not a glass ceiling, it’s a plexiglass ceiling because you can’t break through it—you have to work around it.
Fenuxe: How did the conference of gay and lesbian university presidents come together and what are the goals?
Middleton: We thought there were two or three [gay presidents] then there were four then five, and we woke up one day and said “oh my goodness there’s 20-something!” so we thought maybe we should do something at least to consider whether or not we as a group can address some of our unique issues. And most importantly, how can we be mutually supportive and also supportive of those people a little bit younger who have the potential to be presidents as they seek their way into this level of leadership.
Fenuxe: How important is it to have LGBT people in positions of power?
Middleton: I think it’s critical. It’s the fact that younger people see successful older people in the community having careers and lives that in many respects are perfectly ordinary in the general scheme of things and that this [being gay] is not a disadvantage. They need to believe that they can make something of themselves and further their life over time. It’s very clear around here that our students and particularly our staff and faculty who are out or not find it, I guess…comforting and/or encouraging to see that I’m sitting over here in the corner doing my thing.
But I don’t think it’s a unique thing for us. I think it’s very important for there to be women and minorities who play the same role elsewhere. You either believe in equality or you don’t, you cannot parse equality. People are either equal or they’re not. Once you’re not, then the debate is not about equality, it’s about who you’re going to discriminate against. So we’ve moved beyond that to some degree but we have a ways to go.
Fenuxe: When you were in the closet way back when, what would you have said if someone told you that you would be the first openly gay president of a major university?
Middleton: I would have wondered what they were smoking and how I could get my hands on some of it. I’m not afraid to say that I’m of a certain generation, ya know? [laughs]